This is one of the things I came up with while brainstorming ideas for the Queen of the Winter Army, one of the characters I'm working on for a video game. I wanted to draw a flabby, fat woman (and she is obese, not just fleshy), for some variety. I put the armor on her, and my friend Eric wanted her to shoot icicles out of her hands. I think she looks like a campy villian out of Flash Gordon. I'd like to draw her again in a less stiff pose. And next time I draw her, thanks to your complaints, I'm going to give her even less clothes!
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Do you realize there is a market for heroines/heroes that are Big or "obese" as you put it. She really wasn't that obese and was more a normal size in our society. If you could make her with a little more human characteristics she would have been better. Someone is missing huge market out there by not realing this huge void in art!! Lisa Coleman replies: "Wow, for a doodle that I never expected to go anywhere, after all, I just wanted to explore all my options, I've got an amazing response. I'll see what I can do about working with this lovely lady."
I also agree with crystal, you shouldn't dis art just because different, I applaud you Lisa for thinking outside the box! Oh yeah, I like the outfit alot, it makes me think a layer of ice has formed over her body and had cracks in it from the movement of her body. I hate to critisize but I have to agree about the stiffness of her pose.....If you could re-draw it with a little more movent it would be even better......Oh yeah, congrats on being artist of the day!!!!!!!
I don´t think that she´s all that obese. But she´s good anyway. I tend to think about winter queens & kings as rather anorectic, though, and the ones who represent more fertile seasons as more fleshy. But than again, maybe she could have gotten that big because she has sucked all the life out of the world. & in that case her summer counterpart would be starved because she´s given all of herself away to make the land live again... um, it seems I´ve gotten off the subject. Maybe I ought to shut up now, before my English vocabular runs out (I wouldn´t like to evoke the wrath of such a fine artist). I would like to see more of this lady, if you do decide to draw her again. Lisa Coleman replies: "You make some very interesting points there, I never really thought about fertility and that stuff. In my many drawings I did for this project, I drew a stereotypical snow queen, very anorexic. Actually you can see all of them at www.wwu.edu/~colemae/snow.html"
11 Feb 2002
Aimee
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Well I'm using my friends internet cos I don't have my own computer so all that crap about having my own email is complete bullshit.I agree that obuse/whatever people can be cute I just didn't think this particular drawing was cute, I don't notice any of you commenting on the comment by 'fantasy' and that is quite offensive. Ok, so maybe I wasn't really thinking about my comment and I'm very sorry now I have read it through and hope you weren't too offended when I said you had no imagination. But I think that if you draw her again she should have maybe a longer skirt or a floor length dress? aimee
Thank you aimee for returning to comment, I'm very impressed. It is virtually impossible to offend me. I like getting negative comments usually. Usually. BUT, I think that this lady just wouldn't have such an impact on people if she actually wore practical clothes, so I think, next time, she'll be wearing even less! But seriously, thanks for your input and apology.
20 Feb 2002
Lisa Ann Eshkenazi
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Wow...impressive reactions here. It's amusing how quickly some people can be offended and how quick others are to jump to the artist's defense. At any rate, I think you did a good job with the shading on her torso. So few people realize that obese people aren't just huge smooth blobs but somewhat lumpy. I have a question about her hair though because it's hard to see exactly what is going on up there on her head. Is her hair just smooth at the front or is that part of her head bald? And I like how you have given her small feet. Lisa Coleman replies: "Thank you for your great comments. Yes, I believe it is those lumps that separate a fleshy person from an obese person. When flesh hangs from you like drapes, and you're not just undertoned, it's not a good thing. As for her hair, she's got it, I just gave slight indications of her hairline."
Looks like we share a pet peeve! I'm always on to people for stuff like that. I like this pic, too. I can't really say much that hasn't been said - I really like seeing someone draw a not-so-perfect woman, at long last. ^^
The picture is very artistic and it shows that a picture does not have to be the perfect size for it to be beautiful...I think the artist as alot off talent and could express how she feels in it....Wonderful i hope u never stop ya art works
Cool piece (but then I like the Big girls anyway), would you mind very much if I took a crack at this piece? It will no doubt look different from yours as we have different styles, did you really want her to be just plump or like really big? When you haven't drawn large women they tend to start off small and grow in size on you as you go along. The proportions seem fine though, good work. Lisa Coleman replies: "Ah, I'm sorry I haven't noticed this comment for two months! Feel free to draw her and do what you want with her. She really does deserve more attention than I have given her. I would love to see what you could make of her."
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