| 14 Jan 2004 | Slayergirl | Loading...Xana is wrong and Anonyomus is right the Nazgul are the dragony things the main rider is called the The wich king of Angmar. | |
| 14 Jan 2004 | Jeff Burke | Loading...sorry about that last post, and you're free to delete it if you like. I just don't like when people confuse the Nazgul and the fell beast. Kind of a pet peeve.
You can delete this as well, as I'm sure you will. | |
| 14 Jan 2004 | Jeff Burke | Loading...Actually, Xana is right. Check your indexes that come with the LOTR books, right after the appendicies. Ahem:
Nazgul (ringwraith):[several page numbers] Appearances: as horsemen,[more page numbers], MOUNTED on WINGED CREATURES[page numbers], Nazgul Lord, See also Lord. Also called Black Riders, the Nine(riders), Ringwraiths, Winged Messenger, Wraiths. See also Witch-King.
Now, explain to me how a huge winged thing could appear as a horseman, or MOUNTED ON ANOTHER WINGED THING???
That is EXACTLY what's written in the index included in the LOTR(I'm looking at it right now...) The capital letters are mine, used for emphasis. There are other examples I could give to prove the conception of Nazgul as the "winged thing" wrong, but this is the most powerful. For the others, e-mail me. | |
| 20 Mar 2004 | Anonymous | Loading...Xana is correct. The word "Nazgul" literally means "Ring-Wraith" in the Black Speech. Chief among the Nazguls was the Witch-King of Angmar, so named because he was once the ruler of the Evil Realm of Angmar. The creatures that the Nazguls ride are simply called "fell beasts", and no other name is given to it. If you doubt me, go search on the internet or something. | |
| 4 Apr 2004 | Pearl Took | Loading...Since when did this become a debate on who's right and wrong? Isn't this for reviewing art?
It's a very nice picture. I love the action it's captured. It's got so much detail and is so life-like. It's marvelous. I love it. *Go Eowyn!*
P.S. Xana's right. See Jeffrey Atlas Burke's post if you don't believe me. That should be all the proof you need. (Sorry, couldn't resist) | |
| 17 Apr 2004 | Gus the fun time cuddle pig <gus.funti | Loading...that picture is really cool, and i will apologise in advance, but i would also like to say that Xana is indeed right, i use to get confused between the nazgul and the fell beasts aswell, mainly because when they are on horses they are simply called black riders, and its really only when they get their fell beasts that they start to get called nazgul, so it can lead you to believe that the nazgul are in fact the fell beasts, but alas, it isnt so, the nazgul are the wraiths, and as someone else already said, no other name is given to the dragon type steed of the nazgul other than "fell beast".  | |
| 31 May 2004 | LOTR Rules! | Loading...Awesome Picture!! I love sketching Ring wraiths (Mainly because I don't have to draw Faces) And this is incredible! It's so detailed!! And the balance is perfect! Great Job!
Oh... And Elfwood writer is RIGHT! A Nazgul is a Ring Wraith Or A Black Rider! At Bree, in the FIRST MOVIE, Aragorn says that they are "The Nazgul, Ring Wraiths, Neither living nor dead." The Dragons are simply referred to as Fell Beasts! | |
| 13 Aug 2004 | Claire | Loading...we likes it! i especially like witchy's cloak, much better than the huge black sheets we saw them wearing in the film... (how can that be practical? riding about chasing hobbits whilst wearing excessive amounts of black bedsheets??). *sighs dreamily* i love nazgul... they're so adorable... in a kind of evil-servants-of-Sauron-way. but that's beside the point. and at the risk of being repetitive, Nazgul are the riders, fell beasts are the dragon-ish things. it annoys me when people get them confused, but i suppose it's not their fault really. anyway, great pic  and sorry about the rambling | |
| 3 Jan 2005 | Per | Loading...Is or is not - it's a fantasy guys, whatever makes the story work for you. Have a debate over something real instead - but not on this site maybe. | |
| 26 Apr 2007 | Shiregirl | Loading...Hey, if anybody's still here blowing off steam, perhaps I should open the old 'Balrogs-having-wings-or-not' debate...just kidding.
I like the simplicity of the black-and-white. And perhaps I could add something else: it is possible that "Nazgul" can be used collectively to refer to both together, when that situation occurs. Otherwise, I have heard the creature referred to as a 'fell beast' among others. Very general. When in doubt about Tolkien, always check the etymology. | |